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21 May 2012 ~ 0 Comments

Samba Mobile interview (part 2)

Welcome back to the second part of our exclusive interview with Samba Mobile founder and CEO Ben Atherton. Last time we went over several details about the rather unique business model and now we’re getting down to the nitty gritty – how to get started, what exactly you have to do to get free mobile broadband and his vision of the future the telecommunications sector.

One of our readers, Joe, has already found out some details about the adverts and how they translate into credit/mobile data. He says that after watching six adverts, the average length was about one and a half minutes. The shortest was 38 seconds and the longest just over two minutes. On average you will earn 3.5 MB of data usage per advert watched which works out at about 2.3 MB of data for watching each minute of advertisement. So it sounds rather reasonable if you just want to use it for light browsing.

And now, with no further ado, the rest of the interview:

When do you launch and how can users get started with Samba?

We have already launched for iPad. Just go to to our site and order your micro sim card (£4.99 + £2.50 p&P). NB we make no money on the SIM as we don’t subsidise like the big networks.

Takes 5 minutes and then we despatch next day. No more cost, everything from then on is free.

You can earn credit immediately on the website.

If you are a laptop/tablet user – you can pre-register for a dongle at www.sambamobile.com

What sort of ratio of advert-viewing-to-free-service can we expect?

From the trial users watched an average of 103 ads per month, or 3 a day (90 seconds a day). We have some longer content now so that could be 2 mins per day.

Lots of people have asked whether there are any upfront costs at all – is this the case?

Yes of course, see above. We have to cover our sim and dongle costs, and p&p. We aren’t like the networks, who subsidise this because they know they can expect a further £300-400+ from you over the lifetime of your contract.

What do you think the impact of 4G and the exponential rise of smartphones is going to be on data pricing and where do you see the network in five years?

It’s a very good question. Cisco thinks that “Mobile-connected tablets will generate almost as much traffic in 2016 as the entire global mobile network in 2012”.

They also see video driving huge amounts of this traffic. So we see Samba as a service whose ‘time has come’ .

Re pricing, the operators, in our view, will exponentially build capacity, and users (on all devices) will grow both traffic as well as more users coming onto the network. So overall data traffic will explode.

But overall ARPU, will not grow directly in relation to traffic – the history of mobile voice, text and fixed broadband show that – and people’s disposable income wont grow in direct relation to traffic either – so by definition the cost of data per unit (MB, G, EXA) will have to drop.

But it wont be radical and it wont be overnight – so data will be a valuable commodity for some time to come.

We hoped you enjoyed that and found it useful. Do you have any other questions you’d like to ask about Samba? Let us know and we’ll do our best to answer them or even put them to the CEO in another interview.

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15 May 2012 ~ 1 Comment

Samba Mobile interview

samba mobile logoAfter our preview of Samba Mobile (a network with an interesting business model) a couple of weeks ago, we got together with CEO and co-founder Ben Atherton to chat some more. Some of you had some interesting questions and we tried to get as detailed answers as possible.

Ben, first of all can you explain a little more about the genesis of the company and the ideas behind it?

The idea came about in 2009. The 2 founders, me and Dilip, had worked in the ad industry and the telco industry since the early 1990s. We knew the web was moving more towards video (and brands were reacting to this), we knew that people wanted better value from their mobile providers for data on laptops (this was pre iPad) and we knew that operators wanted to drive money from advertising.

Put these three trends together, and we came up with Samba.

What can users expect from the adverts they have to view and how are you choosing advertisers?

Adverts are varied and high quality. At the moment we are running Virgin Media, Volvo, Star Wars Kinect, Samsung, Next, Nissan, Microsoft, Schweppes – amongst others. Major brands. Most content is between 30′ and 60′. Viewers watch on average 3 per day (we know this because we did a trial with 300 users in 2011 over 3 months and 50 brands, some 90,000 ad events were played).

We aggregate ads and other video content from social and viral video partners such as Unruly Media.

Going forward, we will also offer music, film and sport content.

Over time, as we offer more and more ads and content, people will get more and more of what they want as we can show them stuff they like based on what they have clicked on before.

The MVNO market is incredibly competitive and saturated – apart from your pricing plan, how else are you going to distinguish yourselves and get the word out?

We are very attentive to who else is out there, but so far see nobody like us. Because we are free, and there is a fair ‘value exchange’ (ie users watch high quality content and get data in return) – we expect to see high satisfaction with the service and therefore good word of mouth.

Only today one of our triallists was invited to return, signed back up and sent this quote:

Thank you in advance and I look forward to using your great service again

I asked him if we could use the quote and he said “Yes that’s no problem” – so we think it fair to say have happy customers.

This revenue model has been attempted many times before in other markets – why do you think it will work better now and in this particular niche?

Its all about the value exchange – we offer a valuable service – which in the market most people place at being £10-15 (for a month’s worth of mobile broadband data) & for the most part our customers are entertained watching ads and content to earn this data.

Blyk was very interesting (there are some similarities) but at the end of the day the voice minutes and text being offered was worth a lot less in the market than what Samba is offering. People value mobile broadband access.

Freeserve was a similar model and they gained 1.5m customers over a decade ago.

Mobile broadband demand is soaring, everyone should have a right to have it. Why pay?

The other key thing is that right now, in the middle of the worst downturn in living memory, nearly everyone wants a bargain, not just traditional ‘bargain seekers’.

All the above is from a customers POV (and quite right) but from a brand POV we also provide benefit. We know from our trial our average CTR (click thru rate) was 7 times the market average. For us the only logical reason for that is because our customers responded well to the ads. So brands are happy too.

What is your target market? How has adoption been so far and do you have growth forecasts?

Its everyone who wants a high quality mobile broadband service. We are attracting everyone from teenage men to 60 year old women. We only went live this afternoon and are already seeing significant sign ups. We have 7000 people pre-registered.

Right now we are only offering iPad micro sims, but soon we will offer dongles. Once they are available, we see no reason why the customer base should not grow into the hundreds of thousands and beyond. Mobile broadband penetration in the UK is only around 15-20% right now, and we see that growing (as do the likes of Gartner and other players) to 40-50%+ in the next few years. This means over 20m connections out there for grabs. There are currently only 6 providers in this space (including Samba). There’s no reason why we shouldn’t attract a good amount of those 20m connections.

That’s it for now. Stayed tuned for part 2 of the interview in the coming days. We’ll have the full lowdown on how to order a Samba Mobile SIM and what being a customer actually entails. Don’t forget to subscribe to our RSS feed and follow us on Twitter to be notified once we’ve published the post 🙂

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